These
risks and uncertainties should be considered carefully and prospective investors
should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements. Although the
forward-looking statements contained in this news release are based upon
what
management believes to be reasonable assumptions, the company cannot assure
that
actual results will be consistent with these forward-looking
statements.
As
a reminder, this conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. I
would
now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, Mr.
Brian
McCarthy, Executive Chairman of 180 Connect. Please proceed sir.
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Thank
you, Operator, and good morning everyone. I'm joined this morning on this
call
by Peter Giacalone, our Chief Executive Officer; and Howard Balter, the Chairman
and Chief Executive Officer of Ad.Venture Partners; and Ilan Slasky, the
President of Ad.Venture Partners. Yesterday evening, 180 Connect announced
that
it has agreed to an arrangement agreement with Ad.Venture Partners, a US
based
special purpose Acquisition Company. We are very excited about this arrangement.
We welcome the shareholders, analysis and interested investors from both
180 and
Ad.Venture Partners today.
In
March of 2006, I assumed the role of Executive Chairman to oversee our
investigational strategic alternatives for the company. In September, at
the
request of the Board of Directors' I agreed to remain in that capacity to
work
with Peter Giacalone and his management team to restructure, refocus and
transform the business for our long-term success. Thus, I am very excited
about
this transaction with Ad.Venture Partners as the infusion of capital will
enable
us to deleverage the balance sheet, which in turn, will lower our costs of
capital, increase our operational flexibility and allow us to make strategic
acquisitions and enable us to accelerate our growth initiatives.
Without
this infusion of capital, it would take the company a couple of years to
get the
balance sheet turned around. This transaction not withstanding we remain
focused
on the key three initiatives that we previously announced. First, continued
improvement in our core business, driving profitability with a strong focus
on
cash flow. Second, focus on deleveraging the existing infrastructure and
to
complement our business lines such as our new network services and proline
initiatives. Lastly, we continue to work to improve operating efficiencies
by
exploiting existing core competencies such as fleet and technician utilization,
in source recruiting and leveraging our buying power.
Now
I'd like to provide a summary of the transaction. For 180 Connect shareholders
this deal equates to an offer of approximately $3.58 per share with an implied
equity value of US$115 million. This is a share for share transaction with
180
shareholders exchanging their shares for 0.627 shares of Ad.Venture subject
to
adjustment for professional fees, and other expenses of the
transaction.
In
addition, Canadian shareholders will have the opportunity to elect to receive
exchangeable shares of a Canadian subsidiary of Ad.Venture in lieu of Ad.Venture
shares. Since we are not able to offer tax advice, I won't. But to suffice
it to
say our goal was to structure the share exchange so as to allow Canadian
shareholders the opportunity to defer taxes for up to two years by electing
to
receive exchangeable shares.
Upon
closing, we expect to receive approximately US$42 million, in cash, net of
expenses and Ad.Venture's deferred underwriting fees, assuming none of
Ad.Venture's stockholders exercise their conversion rights. This substantial
infusion of capital will provide us with a much-improved balance sheet and
provide our company with the opportunity to accelerate growth and reinvigorate
our planned diversification efforts.
The
proposed transaction will create a US operating entity with an anticipated
US
listing. We currently expect to qualify for a listing on the NASDAQ global
market, soon after the conclusion of this transaction. 180 Connect will be
the
surviving operating entity. The current management team will be retained
and the
Board of Directors will be expanded to include additional independent
members.
The
arrangement agreement has been unanimously approved by the Board of Directors
of
both 180 Connect and Ad.Venture. The Board of Directors of 180 Connect has
received a fairness opinion from financial advisor, William Blair & Company,
LLC. And we expect the transaction to close in the third calendar quarter
of
2007. The plan of arrangement will require the approval of at least 66 2/3%
of
the shareholders and option holders of 180 Connect, present in person or
by
proxy at a meeting held for that purpose and will require the approval of
the
Court of Queens Bench of Alberta. Similarly, the plan of arrangement requires
the approval of at least 51% of the Ad.Venture stockholders.
In
addition, Ad.Venture will not complete the arrangement, if stockholders holding
20% or more of the stock issued in its initial public offering both vote
against
the arrangement and elect to convert their common stock into a pro-rata share
of
funds in Ad.Venture Trust account as permitted by Ad.Venture's charter. In
addition, the arrangement will be subject to certain other closing conditions
including the expiration of the waiting period under the Hart-Scott-Rodino
Antitrust Improvements Act.
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Throughout
this process, the management team has continued to move forward with our
US
listing process for 180 Connect. We have substantially completed the
registration process with the FCC and believe we are in a position to go
effective and complete our listing by the end of March. However, as a result
of
this merger arrangement we will halt the listing process and have received
consents from our debenture holders to extend the listing obligations by
four
months.
We
continue to dedicate our efforts to the delivery of increasingly strong
financial metrics and the improvement of company systems and processes. We
are
very optimistic about our market and the opportunities for growth available
to
us and look forward to a strong year. While we plan to report our financial
results for the fiscal year ending December 31, 2006 on Thursday, March 15th,
we
felt it was important to provide our preliminary results given the importance
of
today's events.
Based
on our information at this time, the company expects to report revenue of
approximately $335 million and adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations
before
restructuring costs of approximately $14.7 million for fiscal 2006. Adjusted
EBITDA from continuing operations before restructuring costs is a non-Canadian
GAAP measure and may not be comparable to similarly titled measures used
by
other companies.
A
reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations before
restructuring costs to a comparable GAAP measure is available in our press
release announcing our 2006 earnings teleconference. This transaction represents
a great opportunity and is good for our shareholders, as it will afford us
the
opportunity to accelerate our business plans and eliminate the risk from
our
balance sheet.
We
look forward to working with the management team of Ad.Venture, who has a
successful of history of starting, financing, growing, operating and selling
technology media and telecommunication companies, and believe this transaction
will be beneficial to the Ad.Venture stockholders as well.
Now
I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Howard Balter, Chairman and Chief
Executive Officer of Ad.Venture Partners, Howard.
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Thank
you very much, Brian. On behalf of myself and the entire management team
at
Ad.Venture Partners, we would just like to express to our shareholders, to
everyone listening, how excited we are about this transaction. In terms of
just
looking at the transaction from the highest level, I would first like to
point
out, I think, four themes or four aspects of this transaction, which I think
are
important to focus on, again from a high level.
Firstly,
our ability to take the money in the trust, which is roughly $50 million
and to
leverage that money. Over the last year and a half, myself, Ilan Slasky,
Lawrence Askowitz, together we've looked at a number of companies in Ad.Venture.
We've seen companies ranging anywhere from $50 million in revenue to $200
million, this company, 180 Connect, has gone from $200 million in revenue
in '04
to projected revenue in '07 of $370 million. We are using the $50 million
in the
trust fund to fund the company of significant scale and significant
size.
This
is important for a number of reasons. Number one is we think in the financial
markets the idea of a company this size and its growth rate will be very,
very
attractive. Number two, management has proven their ability to manage really,
really high growth within an exciting industry. And that's very, very rare
to
find management that can take a company from $200 million to $400 million,
literally, in three to four years.
And
lastly, many of the companies that we've looked at were not necessarily ready
to
go public. This company has listed on Toronto, has done an excellent job
of
managing their public profile, has professions that understand what it's
all
about, has systems in place, has reporting in place to be able to be very,
very
successful as a public company. So we are excited about using our $50 million
to
do a large transaction.
Secondly,
all of the money in the trust is going into the company. And it's going to
make
a significant difference. As opposed to a number of other deals we've seen
and
we've looked at, where there's a large cash out from the private investors
or
the principals, here there is no cash out. Here the management and the
shareholders are wedded to the company and its future success. And we think
that's very important.
In
addition, it strengthens the balance sheet and gives the company the ability
to
realize its potential. While 180 was clearly on its way to deleveraging,
we feel
we've accelerated that process by two to three years.
Thirdly,
we love the industry that 180 Connects plays in. It's an industry that has
fantastic themes. Themes we all can relate to. Everyone in their home has
seen
complexity, in terms of technology, into their home. Whether it's satellite,
whether it's cable, whether it's teleco. We're all bombarded with new products,
with advertising from all these industries. And whether it's satellite, whether
it's cable, whether it's teleco. Whoever is selling products, as they become
more complex the need for 180's services to be able to install and to be
able to
fulfill those needs is a tremendous thing.
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And
theme number four on a high level is the growth of the company. And it's
not
only growing in terms of revenue, but significant growth in EBITDA. We're
looking at a company, and we've been in the company, we've done our due
diligence, we've seen the trends. We're very excited about the company going
from in '06 roughly $15 million EBITDA to $25 million EBITDA. So again we
think
we've leveraged our money very, very effectively. Secondly, the money is
going
into company. Third, the industry is great, plays on great trends. And fourthly,
the company has proven they can grow.
I'd
also like to just mention a few specifics about the company. Number one,
barriers to entry. So by way of example, if someone would say that they are
going to fund or create a new FedEx or new UPS. It would be very, very difficult
to do that. Why? Because there's specific expertise in running 4,000 [techs]
as
180 Connect does, being in 31 states and be able to deploy them and have
3
million visits in the home a year. And these are done in rural areas, high-touch
areas, done in a number of areas. And it's very, very difficult to duplicate
that.
Secondly,
visibility. We believe there's very good visibility on the company based
on the
fact they have very, very large Blue Chip customers. The Blue Chip customers
at
the beginning of the year give the company projections. To date, those
projections have been in 1 or 2% or just a few percentage points of the actual
volumes. So we're very confident in the volumes for '07.
In
addition, pricing has recently gone in the company's favor. And it looks
like
the pricing is also pretty clear at least for the next 12 months in the
foreseeable future. The number one barriers to entry. There are only one
or two
companies in the United States that have the reach, have the amount of techs,
have the amount of trucks and the ability to roll them out to deliver technology
to the home and to the commercial arenas.
Secondly
about 90% of the DirecTV areas that 180 Connect serves are exclusive. To
be able
to go ahead and replace that is very, very difficult. So we have good barrier
to
entry, visibilities.
And
the last thing I'd like to stress is this transaction in terms of its
comparables. The transaction is being consummated roughly $160 million
enterprise value. We are issuing roughly 20 million shares at about $5.70
a
share, which is about $115 million in equity value, plus about $45 million
of
debt on the company which brings us $160 million enterprise value. That's
roughly 6.5 times over 7 EBITDA. Its comparables are trading at 9.5 times
EBITDA
and not growing at the rate this company and clearly not improving its EBITDA
on
this scale.
So
we're very excited about the fact we found a great company that is seriously
undervalued in the marketplace. Paying a premium for what it's trading at
but
nevertheless a significant discount to its comparables. And as it gets the
infusion of capital, lists on the NASDAQ, we're comfortable about the company
is
in a great position to grow and create tremendous value.
Lastly,
I would just like to emphasis the management that's in place. We are
unbelievably impressed with the management. In all of the companies we've
looked
at, we've never seen management that has this experience and this amount
of
skill that can manage such a complex company and has a tremendous record
of
managing their relationships with Blue Chip customers.
So
based on all of these themes, the general themes, the structure of the deal,
how
we've leveraged our money and the specifics in terms of this industry and
the
management team and the valuation we think that we've brought tremendous
value
to the table. And we're looking forward to all our shareholders and everyone
that's involved in the company joining in our future success. Thank you very
much.
I'd
like to turn over now to Pete, the CEO, who will give us a good overview
of the
specifics in terms of the company and his feelings on the
transaction.
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Okay,
thanks Howard. For those of you who are unfamiliar with the business, I would
like to give you a brief overview. 180 Connect is one of North America's
largest
providers of installation, integration, and fulfillment services or provider
of
technology fulfillment and integration services to the home. Our services
include satellite where we're the second largest member of DirecTV's managed
home services provider network. Cable where we are Cablevision's largest
installer. Other customers in cable operations include Roger's, Time Warner,
Cox, and WOW.
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We
also provide fiber network design and engineering to municipalities and
developers in structured wiring into home integration for the new home
construction market. The company performs approximately 3 million in-home
visits
per year. And operates across 85 branches in the US and Canada. We currently
have more than 4,000 highly trained technicians and fleet of over 3,000 company
owned vehicles. This national footprint gives us the ability to leverage
our
expertise and capture additional revenue.
The
company has the infrastructure in place to greatly expand the existing customer
base through additional markets. The fundaments of our industry continuing
to
strengthen and we believe we are well positioned to enable the digital world
in
the home. Demand for our services is accelerating rapidly, both within the
satellite and cable industry and across the telecom and home entertainment
sectors. We believe that this is due to the convergence of technology, which
is
driving demand for additional installation services in the home including
voice,
data and video offerings.
In
addition, growth is being driven by the introduction of a variety of other
new
technologies combined with the strong upgrade trend from basic to digital
cable
and high-definition TV. We continue to see the growth in visual homes wired
for
sound, security and data. In 2006, over 60% of the 2 million homes built
in the
United States had advanced structured wiring creating a market that is prime
for
consultive upsell. We have a chance to leverage these visits, and drive higher
margin businesses through 180 Connect, as the role of technology becomes
more
prevalent in the customer's daily life.
The
opportunities to go after that business and expand our current relationships
is
very exciting and given our customer expectations for business in '07 we're
going to provide the following guidance for fiscal 2007.
The
company expects that its projected revenue for '07 will range from $365 million
to $375 million as a result of anticipated volume increases from our major
customers and the continued growth in 180 network services division. Based
on
this expected increase the company anticipates EBITDA from continuing operations
will range from approximately $24 million to $26 million.
We
take great pride in the quality of our customer service and performance.
And
view the delivery of world-class customer service experience as a significant
competitive differentiator that we have and a predicator for enhanced service
offerings for the future. I'm going to open up the lines for questions now,
however I ask that we just focus on today's announcement since our earnings
is
slated for tomorrow afternoon. I'm going to turn in over to Howie.
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I'm
sorry, just one important point that I'd like to make. The management
themselves, myself and Ilan Slasky, have committed to go into the marketplace
and purchase up to $7 million worth of stock, which is roughly about 13%
to 14%
of the float. So besides the investment we've made to date, we like the deal
so
much we're going to be out there buying stock between now and the
closing.
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Okay,
Operator, with that we'll open up with some questions please.
QUESTION
AND ANSWER
Okay,
before we begin, I'd like to read another forward-looking statement. Certain
information to be discussed from this conference call constitutes
forward-looking information including statements regarding financial
performance, growth opportunities, forecasts of EBITDA and the timing and
benefits of completing the purposed arrangement between 180 Connect and
Ad.Venture Partners. Actual results could differ materially from any
conclusions, forecast or projection in the forward-looking information and
certain material factors or assumptions were applied in these forecasts,
projections, or statements as reflected in the forward-looking
information.
Forward-looking
statements involve significant risks, uncertainties and assumptions, references
should be made to 180 Connect's annual information form available on Sedar,
at
www.sedar.com for a description of the risks and uncertainties facing 180
Connect. And to Ad.Venture Partners annual reports on Form 10K filed with
the
U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, available at www.SEC.gov many factors
could cause actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially
from the results discussed or implied in the forward-looking statements.
These
factors should be considered carefully and perspective investors should not
place undue reliance on the forward-looking statements. Although the
forward-looking statements contained in this investor presentation are based
upon what 180 Connect and Ad.Venture Partners believe to be reasonable
assumptions.
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Neither
company can assure that actual results will be consistent with these
forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are made as
of the
date of this investor call and neither company assume any obligation to update
or review these statements to reflect new events or circumstances, except
as
required by law. Ad.Venture Partners intends to file a combined proxy and
registration statement with the Securities and Exchange Commission and connect
with the proposed transaction with 180 Connect and will mail a definitive
management information circular to its security holders concerning information
about the transaction.
Investors
and security holders are urged to read the proxy and registration statement
and
management information circular carefully when it is available because it
will
contain important information about the transaction. Investors and security
holders will be able to obtain free copies of these documents through the
web
site maintained by Securities and Exchange Commission at www.SEC.gov or by
request by Ad.Venture or in the case of the management information circular
at
www.sedar.com or by request by 180 Connect. Ad.Venture and its officers and
directors may be deemed to be participating in the facilitation of proxies
from
the Ad.Venture's stockholders in favor of the approval of the proposed
transaction. Information concerning Ad.Venture's Directors and Officers are
set
forth in the publicly filed documents of Ad.Venture.
We
will now go on to the question and answer session. Ladies and
gentlemen,
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Yes,
go ahead.
And
your first question will come from the line of Steve Mather of Sanders Morris
Harris, please proceed sir.
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Steve
Mather -
Sanders Morris Harris - Analyst
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Thank
you and congratulations gentlemen, it seems like a nice match.
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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How
are you doing Steve, it's Brian here.
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Steve
Mather -
Sanders Morris Harris - Analyst
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Hey
Brian. Good morning.
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Do
you need me to read that disclaimer again for you? [laughter]
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Steve
Mather -
Sanders Morris Harris - Analyst
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Twice.
Twice more. Two more times. Just a couple of questions. To what extent, your
'07
guidance is pretty strong, to what extent is that already include let's say
principal pay downs?
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Brian
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Well
this is guidance at the EBITDA levels so we've given a revenue and EBITDA
guidance. So there are principal requirements, term long throughout
'07.
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Steve
Mather -
Sanders Morris Harris - Analyst
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That's
a good point. Can you -- you already have the cash -- can you pay down the
term
loan, 17.5% and the 11.5% or revolver, or can you pay that down?
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Yes
we can.
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Steve
Mather -
Sanders Morris Harris - Analyst
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As
you see fit now that you have some cash?
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Well
there are the scheduled amortization payments. The 17% is not the cash paid
interest by the way. That's includes the increase of the loan fees. It's
around
12%. But yes, we have an early redemption option with the term
loan.
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Steve
Mather -
Sanders Morris Harris - Analyst
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Okay.
And let's see -- how much do you think you'll need to keep for working capital
versus money you can just pay down that way?
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Well
we'd like to see our leverage ratio within industry comps so we're likely
to pay
down a portion of our existing bank facility and keep the remaining $20 to
$39
as working capital.
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Steve
Mather -
Sanders Morris Harris - Analyst
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Okay.
And a lot to be said about Direct TV. I think I have a handle on that but
if you
could just talk about non-Direct TV business for a minute. There is a whole
host
of opportunities that you have and you've discussed before. If I throw out
a few
could you choose one or two that you think are the highest, maybe, potential
in
'07 or '08? And the list is proline, fiber, security, structured wiring,
and
even cable.
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180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Let
me start with cable. There is always opportunity to grow in the cable sector.
And we're in a very good position to essentially pick where we want to go.
Right
now, Roger's in Ontario is courting us for additional fleet and we put on
that
fleet 30 trucks over the last quarter. We will likely roll out another 30
trucks
over the first and second quarter. Roger's is a very good customer for us.
Their
rate card is fantastic. And we find the assembled workforce and work ethic
up
there to be very good. So that's extremely high margin work for us. And we're
quite interested in growing in that sector.
In
cable United States there is pretty consistent, big opportunity for us and
we
look pretty hard at these bids. And have our own internal mechanism and formula
to look at certain DNA's when bids come up where we will only bid when it's
40
trucks or more. We'll only bid with a customer that we've worked with and
are
comfortable and certainly has to meet our internal return on investment
criteria. So we're in a pretty good position there to look where we want
to grow
in cable. And there are some areas in the United States that are looking
for --
asking us to fill them with vendors.
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With
respect to fiber, huge growth area for us. That's the exciting area of this
company, not that satellite and cable aren't. We are consistently bidding
on
larger and larger municipal and developer type work throughout the Western
United States. We should have an announcement coming out within a month or
two
about a very large project that we've been awarded as the contractor. The
next
step is getting that project funded through municipal funding.
But
the network services business as you know, Steve, we like tremendously. It
does
not involve a fleet. It involves Cisco certified engineers, designers, project
management people. It does not require the capital infrastructure that the
other
businesses require and essentially it's a 15% EBT business. So that's our
growth
area to business.
Our
proline we could continue to rollout. It's approximately in seven or eight
branches. It will be in another 20 within the next quarter. We continue to
tweak
the product at what we're selling it in our pricing. The technicians like
it a
lot. It's an opportunity for them to make additional commission dollars.
And I
think it provides a fantastic customer service experience when you can help
someone integrate properly their $4,000 Hi-Def TV and hook it up the way
an
engineer designed that it would be hooked up. So that's my list of
priorities.
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Mather -
Sanders Morris Harris - Analyst
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Good
points. Thanks Peter. I'll let someone else go.
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Thank
you.
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Thank
you Steve.
And
your next question will come from the line of Sebastian Van Berkom of Van
Berkom
& Associates.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analyst
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Thank
you very much and congratulations on this transaction or the upcoming
transaction. I guess I have a few questions. I'd like to be a little bit
more
precis in terms of how the cash goes in. In terms of, you are saying improving
the balance sheet, what amount of money exactly is going to pay down debt?
And
could you tell me I missed the -- your comment about what the current debt
level
is and what it will be after you pay down some of the debt. Could you give
-- be
a little bit more precise on that?
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Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Yes.
We don't have specific arrangements yet with our lender. We do have the
redemption ability in our term note. And we're in the process of paying about
$667,000 a month in scheduled payments. In addition, we consistently have
$15 to
$20 million draw on our revolving facility. So we have not engaged yet with
our
lender to talk about the redemption, et cetera. But on a net debt basis,
Sebastian, this brings our net debt EBITDA ratios from a 5.2 to 2.2 and that's
including the capital leases and it includes the $10 million of the
converts.
So
this puts us in a position to be right in line with comparables as far as
our
net debt leverage ratio. But again, we will initiate those conversations
and
really look at our whole capital structure; the whole game here is cost to
capital. We'll evaluate our entire cost of capital shortly after the
close.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analsyt
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The
other -- I missed it was so fast that you gave the numbers -- enterprise
valued
to EBITDA based on 2007. You came out at 6.5 times. Can you just list the
amounts again in terms of what is the -- I would presume you are getting
fully
diluted enterprise value to forecasted EBITDA for 2007. Can you just repeat
the
numbers please?
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Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Sure.
It will take a moment.
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Howard
Balter -
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Howard
from Ad.Venture Partners, I can tell you the way we're looking at it roughly.
Looking at the balance sheet at the end of '06 the company roughly had $38
million outstanding on the lower facilities, $28 million in capital leases,
which is about roughly $66 million. There is $15 million roughly in restricted
cash. We believe when we add our cash to the balance sheet we'll be freed
up.
That will take down the debt to roughly $50 million. There is probably another
few million in cash in prepaid expenses that are in there, take us to about
$45
million of debt on the balance sheet as of '06, making those
calculations.
We
are issuing on a fully diluted basis assuming convert of the outstanding
convertible debt and all warrants that are outstanding. In the range of 33
million 180 Connect shares which translates on treasury method to what's
issuing
on fully diluted basis, 20 million Ad.Venture Partners' shares. Those 20
million
shares are now treading about 70, that's about 115 million equity, while
we will
be issuing in the exchange to the 180 shareholders. The 115 plus the 45 I
just
delineated as 160 that's roughly 6.5 times '07 EBITDA, assuming the mid-range
of
25 million.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analyst
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Okay,
thank you very much for leading me to that. The other question I have is
I
presume that this transaction is subject to approval from Direct
TV.
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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No,
it's not. It's not a change of control. It's an investment of less than the
criteria required in our contract.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analyst
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Okay.
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Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Direct
TV is fully aware of it. We've had very open dialog with them. We being both
180
Connect as well as Ad.Venture Partners.
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This
is Howard with Ad.Venture Partners. There is one point I would like to make
to
you and to everyone is that within our discussions with the Blue Chip customers,
we received a very, very positive feedback about this infusion of capital.
They've said such things like now that the company has such a strong balance
sheet we might look to give them more business. Now that the company can
be
focused on the business itself it doesn't have to worry about the balance
sheet
and financing is cleared up. We're very excited about the relationship. So
we
see this is not only being important in terms of corporate capital but we
think
it could help expand and enhance 180's relationship with all of their customers
seeing a more well capitalized and efficient company.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analsyt
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That's
a good point. My final question is I think, Pete, you referred to the forecast
in revenue for 2007 based on primarily volume increases. I thought that the
company had recently negotiated a rate card increase with their major clients.
I
was wondering if you could comment about, what is the volume increase and
what
is the price increase that comes through in your forecast?
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Balter -
Ad.Venture Partners - Chairman and CEO
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Sebastian,
we're under confidentiality agreements with our major customers. We really
cannot speak of that level of detail with respect to pricing. But however,
taking as a whole that increase from $335 million to $375 million I would
say
two-thirds is volume and one-third is pricing.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analsyt
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Thank
you very much. Good luck guys.
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Balter -
Ad.Venture Partners - Chairman and CEO
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For
all of our customers.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analsyt
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Yes,
super.
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Balter -
Ad.Venture Partners - Chairman and CEO
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Thank
you Sebastian.
And
you next question will come from the line of Bruce Krugel of Blackmont
Capital.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Thanks.
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Hi
Bruce.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Just
some detail, I'm trying to understand with Ad.Venture Partners the fully
diluted
number of shares outstanding and how many will be outstanding after you exercise
whatever you are exercising?
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Okay,
well let me tell you our side first. What Howard just went through was a
fully
diluted version of our shares outstanding so our basic shares outstanding
are
approximately 24.5 million. We have warrants attached to our bank facility
with
Laurus of $2 million. We have warrants attached to our convertible securities
of
$1.570 and then our convertible securities convert into 4.5 million shares.
In
addition, as employee options of about 583 outstanding, as well as stock
appreciation rates of approximately 300,000 outstanding. So those equate
to
33,004 when you run that through the --
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Howard
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Ad.Venture Partners - Chairman and CEO
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33
million.
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Peter
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180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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33,400,000,
thank you. When you run that through the exchange ratio of 0.627 and apply
the
treasury stock method for those securities that brings cash into the business.
It equates to the 20 million that Howard spoke by Ad.Venture Partners on
a fully
diluted basis to our shareholders.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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And
then the fully diluted number of shares at Ad.Venture, the one thing that
I
don't understand, because I'm sorry I'm not familiar with the capital structure
of Ad.Venture. Can you help explain what the possible redemption of 1.8 million
of shares of [buybacks 60] means and all that kind of thing. So help me move
from the fully diluted numbers of shares at the 31st of December to what
will
finally be the fully diluted number of shares and even be prior to the deal
going through.
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Slasky -
Ad.Venture Partners - President
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This
is Ilan at Ad.Venture Partners. Let me just give you a quick primer on the
our
structure. We were formed about two years ago for the purpose of acquiring
a
business in the tech-media telecom space. We issued nine million shares,
nine
million units at $6 a unit about a year and a half ago. Each one of those
units
comes with an attached two warrants that when combined exercise, bring in
about
$90 million in additional capital into the company. These are not penny warrants
or warrants at $5 a share in Ad.Venture Partners.
That
being said, under the structure of the special public Acquisition Corporation,
each of the shareholders has the right to elect to vote against the transaction
should they choose to. And convert their shares for the pro rata portion
of the
trust account, which stands today in excess of $20 million. To the extent
that
we have an excess of 20% of shareholders voting against this transaction,
we
will not be able to complete this transaction.
That
being said up to 19.99% of the shareholders that elect to vote against this
have
the right to redeem their pro rata portion of the trust. So by way of example,
if 2 or 3% of the shareholders elect to vote against the transaction. And
to
redeem their pro rata portion of the trust, that will be less dilution to
180
and the pro rata proforma ownership of the company will be skewed and in
favor
of the 180 Connect shareholder slightly by a couple of percentage
points.
At
maximum swing, I believe between 0 and 19.99%, we're talking about a 4 or
5
percentage point swing in incremental equity proforma of the combined company
of
fully diluted basis accounting for all the warrants and options and employee
stock options outstanding for 180. So immediately prior to the deal, what
we've
told you is that we're going to issue approximately 20 million of Ad.Venture
shares using the treasury stock method.
In
reality depending upon who converts of the 180 shareholders who elect to
convert
we will actually probably issue probably somewhere around 15 or 16 million
at
closing. They will be liable to issue an additional five or six million for
when
those shareholders or stakeholders, I should say, elect to convert their
equity
or their position in to Ad.Venture Partners. On a proforma basis again, at
closing the Ad.Venture Partners has 11.25 million shares outstanding. It
will
either issue somewhere between 15 and 20 million shares depending on how
many
the stakeholders or security holders in 180 elect to convert at
closing.
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Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Okay,
just moving to the with regards a comment made in the press release and that
you
commented on it yourself, buying $7 million worth of AVPs' outstanding stock
at
what -- are you going to be buying that on the open market?
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Ad.Venture Partners - Chairman and CEO
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Yes,
we are going to buying it on the open market.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Okay
and then I know this is [manusha] just bare with me please. Buying on the
open
market at $5.71 that gives you -- you are buying at about approximately 1.22
million shares. You say that's 14% of AVP outstanding stock. If you divide
1.22
by 14% you get 8.75 million shares. You've just said, and I know from the
10Q
that there is 11.25 million shares. Help me to understand the
discrepancy.
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Howard
Balter -
Ad.Venture Partners - Chairman and CEO
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That
1.2 million shares, approximated at today's prices represent $7 million as
you
said. What that is, is a percentage of the float outstanding in the open
marketplace, excluding shares held by insiders? So again, as I said earlier
nine
million shares are actually out there in the open marketplace and the float
that
are subject to be traded. We will repurchase approximately 13% of that over
the
coming weeks and months as permitted by council at the appropriate times.
If you
looked at some of the other transactions within the special focus acquisition
company universe is an enormous commitment on management towards the
transaction. I think relies frankly where we believe the opportunity and
the
amount of equity we would like own in the company on a go forward
basis.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Okay
and then just a couple of minor questions. Thanks for that. Just long-term
180
Connect, are you going to continue with your Canadian listing?
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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The
Canadian listing for the purpose of our exchangeable shares we will file
with
the PSX.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Sure,
but I guess, I'm asking longer term. In fact once the deal is concluded will
you
maintain your Canadian listing?
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Two
years the exchange both shares will trade on the PSX.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Thanks.
And the deal is closing third quarter of '07. Why is it taking so long to
close?
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Complex
transaction, two public companies, both obviously need shareholder approval.
We
are getting our proxy together now. Obviously going through the Canadian
process
of the court approval as well.
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Slasky -
Ad.Venture Partners - President
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This
is Ilan Slasky again. Let me just address it from our perspective. Again,
as
Peter eluded there, there is a shareholder process and a proxy process that
both
companies need to go down. From Ad.Venture's prospective we will be filing
a
proxy shortly. We do have the benefit and I would like to stress this. This
is a
very important point. The Q3 is what we said as an outside date, it's possibly
sooner.
But
we do have the benefit of the fact that on a confidential basis, 180 Connect
has
actually filed the registration statement with the FCC about three months
ago,
has been in review as already had several turns of the comments and amendments.
It's not available to the public shareholder because it was filed
confidentially. But essentially from a FCC review perspective, that should
dramatically condense, we would expect that should dramatically condense
the
timeframe that Ad.Venture Partners proxy would be reviewed by the FCC because
many of the comments that the company has already received will incorporate
already into the proxy to further condense the timeframe by which we will
then
be able to mail a proxy for shareholder votes over the next couple of
months.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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And
then just my final question, you've got 52.2 million cash on the balance
sheet.
The press release talks about $42 million going into 180 Connect. What's
happening to the $10 million differential?
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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52
million in cash currently in the trust account. We have some deferred
underwriting expense of approximately $2 million that we've deferred from
our
offering two years ago, which will be payable and due upon closing. There
are
transactional expenses associated with this transaction to the tune of somewhere
around $7 or $8 million, which will be decoded in the proxy, which will bring
us
down to a conservative number which we believe to be 42 or 43 if not a little
higher.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Great.
Thanks for that.
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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You
are very welcome.
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Howard
Balter -
Ad.Venture Partners - Chairman and CEO
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Thank
you Bruce.
And
your next question is from the line of [Matt DeFano] of ViewStreet
Capital.
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DeFano -
ViewStreet Capital - Analyst
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Good
morning guys. How are you?
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Good
morning Matt.
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DeFano -
ViewStreet Capital - Analyst
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Well,
thank you for coming out so promptly with the information regarding the merger
and having this call. I appreciate it. I was wondering if you might be able
to
and I'm going to have to stick to question is obviously relevant to the
transaction. But I was wonder if you could shed a little light on the recent
news regarding your bid in the Palo Alto area for the fiber network. And
explain
to me how that impacts our EBITDA projection that came out along side this
announcement. Please clarify it because it's definitely been in the media
and
I'm trying to evaluate your projections, et cetera.
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Yes,
there was some news in the Palo Alto Times. We're not in a position to talk
about that. We're still under the name DA and we still do not have the city's
permission to speak about that openly and candidly. However to say tremendously
excited about the opportunity and if I could just stop there as my lawyers
are
jumping me to stop. But this is a tremendous opportunity for us. It will
be a
process that we have to go through with the municipality to get the transaction
approved and get their financing approved. That's on them, that's their
issue.
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McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Matt,
this is Brian McCarthy. Let me take it topside and just talk a little bit
without getting specific about that bid. This is a continuation of our refocus
on the network design business, network services. And increasingly we're
finding
the demand in that sector in both the communities and obviously we started
in
Southern California and are gaining momentum. These are large multi-year
contracts for municipalities with them come a lot of opportunities including
ongoing, recurring revenue for our management of the systems
post-installation.
Clearly
installation will be done by others and it pulls us together with our digital
homes environment because that last 10 feet and into the home is also
increasingly being linked to that orchestrated by developers. And would add
that
one of the eliminates driving that sector is in fact the bad housing market,
which would seem to be an odd thing. But when the housing market was
extraordinarily hot, builders got away with less and less technology in the
homes under the guise of prewires for this and that. And now the housing
market
is clenched up a bit.
They
are driving increasingly enhanced electronic services and automation services
when they're home. I would add that we have not taken into account in our
projections this particular project or others related. Peter. And are trending
to be much more conservative than we used to be many years ago. And we try
to
deal with the base business and examine that for our future. That allows
us not
be overly disappointed if something takes longer than we
anticipated.
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But
Matt, just like that this is a fairly long process when dealing with a
municipality so this project would start in honest in '08. So we won't spend
the
next eight or nine months through the municipal process of approvals et cetera.
But this would not be an earnings event so our fiscal '08.
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Bruce
Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Okay
and this information regarding this process is part of the due diligence
process
if the merger was contemplated.
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Balter -
Ad.Venture Partners - Chairman and CEO
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Could
you repeat the question I couldn't hear you.
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Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Sure,
sure. Regarding these types of projects that are not included in the EBITDA
guidance, and I'm not referring specifically, I assume there is others. Or
maybe
there aren't. But they weren't included in EBITDA guidance but I'm asking
where
they contemplated during the merger? Because increased-it would-you might
make
an argument that the multiple that you're being acquired for is actually
lower
given the potential upside of the projects. And that's why I'm
asking.
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We
certainly contemplated these. We were aware of all the deals in the pipeline
and
there are quite a number of these projects that the company's continued to
bid
on. The fact is there are certain bonding requirements that come along with
some
of these things so the company to date, which I think has been a tremendous
opportunity for us. The company to date has been restricted, I should say
it's
ability to actually be able to bid on some of these projects given some of
the
capital needs associated with just the bonding, which is kind of an odd
situation. But it is a practical dilemma the company faced when you are talking
about substantial enhancements in the balance sheet, now the company is going
to
be freed up to bid on increasingly larger projects, larger in scope, we
certainly looked at that. We saw the fact that until now with expectations
what
that could do to numbers on a go forward focus in '07 as well as
beyond.
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Krugel -
Blackmont Capital - Analyst
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Okay.
Thank you. Let's skip to the guidance which you've come public with. Could
you
shed a little light on sort of the, I'm not sure, leverage or why the topline
guidance is growing so much more slowly than the EBITDA side and sort of
clarify
for us how that's happening. And the relevance factors, et cetera.
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180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Sure,
well in '06 our, I can't speak, our earnings release is tomorrow. So we have
to
be careful here. But what I disclosed on the first three quarterly calls
is that
we did have the growth story in '06. So recall in the first quarter we did
continue to grow our cable business that was the growth demands of both
cablevision and Roger's. We incurred losses and that was the devil will come
mentality. So do remember that we've increased our cable headcount to over
200
for the year. Those are all up and running profitable now.
In
addition the network services business has grown. It's essentially doubled
during the year. So that's causing the increase, that we would basically
break
even early in the year. Now it's making particularly a good margins. The
revenue
is not slowing at all. This is just the full effect of the normal revenue
growth
but the EBITDA is growing larger because all divisions are hitting on all
cylinders and are profitable. So at this point it's a matter of scale. I
think
we've proven the model that it's scalable over the 85 branches. And as we
build
these new businesses we laying them and we're building them on the back of
existing business so enhance the EBITDA growth is greater than the revenue
growth.
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Matt
DeFano -
ViewStreet Capital - Analyst
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Okay.
Kind of a quick housekeeping. Your William Blair & Company report will
update this publish this as usual with the proxy, et cetera.
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Yes,
it will. Their opinion you mean?
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DeFano -
ViewStreet Capital - Analyst
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Yes.
All right. given-you sort of commented on the level of debt and the net
enterprise value calculation earlier. Let's just stick with the numbers,
it's
approximately $66 million debt. Kind of-basically before this merger, what
were
you producing in free cash flow and had the merger never happened what-how
would
you have been able to deleverage the company without the associated dilution
of
this equity injection. And I think, bigger picture and you can sort of approach
the answer how you will but bigger picture the issue here is for at least
for
me.
Long
term 180 shareholders have been with the company so now as we start to see
the
leverage pick up and forward projects aren't even included in the EBITDA
guidance. And we're talking about an opportunity to really grow the business.
Right now we're experiencing a large amount of dilution and in addition to
that
it sort of coming, well it seems to be coming at a very good time and read
the
press release and listen to the comments on the call. The inquire seems to
be
quite excited to be getting a valuable company at a low multiple. Even compared
to comps, et cetera. And the reason that's of interest is because that's
the
very reason we're interested in the equity security in the first
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So
given the exciting new business prospects the fact that they are buying it
at
below comparable multiples I kind of what you to sort of frame for me what
would
it have looked like if you sort of gone the party alone. And deleverage yourself
for your own free cash flow. And why are we selling at, I know you call it
a
premium, but you've got to remember the stock price the premium is based
on
isn't -- doesn't even contemplate the '07 guidance that was given minutes
before, right? So kind of explain to me the higher justifiable premium and
what
the story would have looked like without this equity infusion. And what the
value proposition is to 180 shareholders, the current ones, to be able to
deploy
this capital in a manor, which will be more beneficial than the dilution
we're
suffering.
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Matt,
this is Brian McCarthy. A lot of questions in there. Let me try and come
at it
topside again. In my road show tour of last fall, it was succinctly pounded
into
my forehead by all investors new and old that the two key eliminates acing
as
barriers to this company really returning to a healthy prospect where in
fact
the balance sheet, number one.
And
secondly, the ability to diversify the revenue stream. Clearly not through
the
reduction of our business as one of our Blue Chip customers but through real
diversification within the business itself. Having understood clearly that
this
company had been really in a hypergrowth curve for some period of time. And
having I think missed some opportunities to deliver to the bottomline through
lack of systems process and controls. And as you may recall, I spoke extensively
about actively slowing the company's growth down to allow the business in
fact
to catch up with the demand.
I
don't think it should be lost on our shareholders certainly, loss on the
management team that the ability to rapidly take this company off of risk
and to
surmount step number one which is to get us back to healthy balance sheet.
I
mean opens up a vista of additional new and extended opportunities for the
business. And it does sell probably saving us in my estimates and I'm not
smarter than anybody else. But my estimate is two to three years of very
hard
work while we balance cash flow and slow programs down to meet the demands
of
the business. So from my perspective this is a great move. Could we have
done it
in other ways? Absolutely but those ways would probably required dilution
anyway
and we found in the Ad.Venture's team some very sharp smart people with business
savvy that I think will add a lot to our process as well.
So
this isn't all about money this is about a partnership additionally. The
second
is the second message delivered strongly to me was this company has to diversify
its revenue. It has to get it's proportion of its single largest customer
down
and the only way to do that is to rapidly grow other segments and enhances
opportunities and that cost real capital. So that's a struggle that would
continue, always on the edge of balance. So while I appreciate the concern.
I
think what we've tried to do is modulate the benefit for existing shareholders.
And clearly existing shareholders while being diluted still our big participants
in the ride forward and what that opportunity presents but it does take us
off
risk and it does allow Peter and his management team to move
aggressively.
And
we really have a enormous amount of business and in sectors that provide
us with
better margin opportunities and the fundamental business that are essentially
sitting in files unable to be addressed by us and for me that's an enormous
frustration. So that really a topside look from my perspective responding
to
really last year's road tour. But the critical element gets us off risk and
will
move forward with the business very rapidly.
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Let
me just add the value story you asked to what to touch on. Essentially during
the secondary offering 100% premium to our current stock price. 180 Connect
existing shareholders and stakeholders are still going to own 60 to 65% of
the
company depending on how you apply, who converts and when they convert. In
addition we need cash to bid on these municipal projects.
Municipalities
are very detailed level of diligence when they look at the companies they
are
going to trust to be build a fiber network across their city streets. So
I think
the better balance sheet is going to allow us to attract more and more and
larger municipalities so the names of a Palo Alto and not hitting our screen
versus another city I don't want to mention a smaller city. So I think this
puts
us front and center on the dance floor. It's going to allow us potentially
deleverage expense of debt.
It's
all about the cost of capital here. And our cost of capital and our risk
should
come down associated with cash infusion. Now to your question about how we
would
have done this. Our cash obligations for the year, our net is around $24
million. And that's $14 million lease payments, $8 million of cash interest
expense and $2 million capital expenditures. So when you look at P & L,
there is a lot of GAAP stuff going on there. That the amortization of the
acquisitions we've done to roughly $4 million a year and there is non-cash
interest expense in the form of amortization of loan fees of $3 or $4 million
a
year.
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our nut, the way I look at upon this company we need to make $24 million
in cash
to provide positive cash flow. So your question was what are we doing to
get
there. so first we are doing to get there. so first we have projects are
at, our
loan projections are at $24 million. I think as the year goes on we'll roll
into
the $30 to $40 million business. In addition we have to look at some of the
projects that were in place. So this is just short term thinking '07 we're
looking at all these obligations. We're in some discussion with our fleet
stores
to extend our lease payments by one year. We're paying these over four years.
And frankly these trucks are lasting -- will last five or six years. So we're
in
the process of looking at extension of the term. And that would create $3
to $4
million of cash flow. And we're still in negotiations with Marsh & Liberty
on an alternate collateral arrangement for our insurance. So that's all
preliminary now but there are opportunities again to increase our cash flow
throughout the year with other mechanisms.
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Matt
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ViewStreet Capital - Analyst
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Okay.
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Does
that get to the nut of it Matt?
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Matt
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ViewStreet Capital - Analyst
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Well
it helps. And I guess it sounds like you have your generating or you are
finding
means which you can increase your cash flow. And sort of again, it sort of
begs
the question I guess maybe I'm not clear on the value proposition in terms
of
adding to the balance sheet. And what exactly that you project that will
allow
you to bid on, et cetera, or grow. So maybe you can clarify that but then
also
let's talk about the premium you keep addressing. I'm curious as to how the
premium can be calculated when the market hadn't had time to digest a) the
new
guidance and b) you know whatever it is, the major contracts or such that
you
are planning on announcing in a month. Those are one of the larger pieces,
material pieces of operating information that has come out over the last
year.
So where is the -- explain to me how the premium, when you say 100% premium
where is that based on what the market, given that is doesn't seem that the
market might have time to interpret the market.
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The
market, let me be clear. First of all, my $24 to $26 million guidance is
what
I've given for this year '07. And potentially more beyond '07. But when you
say
the market hadn't had time to digest we gave guidance throughout in July
of '06
and also during our third quarter call over $14 million which we're over
now as
we're here. So we had a very strong third quarter. And without having tomorrow's
earnings realize now, we basically said we're going to meet our guidance.
So the
market has had guidance out there since July of '06.
With
respect to the announcements, we have a lot of potential projects in our
pipeline, which Ilan mentioned in the diligence. So there is several projects
always in the pipeline. You just happen to hit on one, Palo Alto that made
the
press. There are others as well not just on the network services side but
also
on the cable side and also on the divisional homebuilders side. There is
always
work that we're working on in the business development opportunities in the
pipeline. So that one article in Palo Alto I don't think is any different
than
any other things that just don't hit the newspapers. As far as the value
proposition, true, we were going to release tomorrow. We were very strong
about
guidance in all of our road shows and during our earnings releases we always
said we were going to hit our guidance and we're very comfortable with the
$14
million. So I don't think the $14 million number comes as any surprise to
anything.
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DeFano -
ViewStreet Capital - Analyst
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And
with -- for guidance in '07 the first time it was released was yesterday.
Correct?
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Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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'07
guidance was yesterday. Correct.
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Matt
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ViewStreet Capital - Analyst
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And
then that's the forward people value on the forward basis. That's what I
was
referring to. I'm sorry, understood the operating results, historically at
this
point in the recent quarters have been fantastic. Okay just please clarify
for
me --
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McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Matt
this is Brian McCarthy, I've got to move us along. We'd be happy to get on
the
phone with you and go through the details afterwards if that would
help.
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Matt
DeFano -
ViewStreet Capital - Analyst
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That
would be appreciated. Just I will get into you but please give me a little
bit
more insight as I close out. A little bit more insight on how the new balance
sheet, in more detail will allow to you to bid on different projects, et
cetera.
Can you give us a little bit more operational insight in to that? So kind
of
understand where you are coming from and I'll hop back in cue. Thank
you.
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Municipalities
basically look up the balance sheet of the company look at your ratios, your
leverage and put you in front of a panel to explain your questions to them
so
this will help tremendously in that regard.
Shall
we move on to the next question?
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Yes
please.
It
will come from the line of [Kim Freotile] of West Creek Capital.
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Kim
Freotile -
West Creek Capital - Analyst
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I
just wanted to say thank you for holding the call so promptly and also all
of my
questions have been answered.
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Thanks
a lot. Thank you very much. Any other questions operator?
Yes,
your next question is from the line of Chris Casey of Suttonbrook.
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You've
got all my questions answered. Thank you.
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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Thank
you Chris.
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Thanks
a lot.
And
your final question is a follow up from Sebastian Van Berkom.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analsyt
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Yes
just one detail. You mention that the company plans to buy $7 million worth
of
stock. Which stock are we talking about Ad.Venture or 180?
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Sorry,
repeat the question, Sebastian.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analsyt
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Yes,
you mentioned that you are going to buy $7 million worth of your stock. Which
stock are we talking about Ad.Venture or 180?
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Ad.Venture
Partners' stock traded in the U.S. We will be purchasing that stock which
is --
we're the principals of that company.
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Sebastian
Van Berkom -
Van Berkom & Associates - Analsyt
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That's
what I though. Thank you.
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Thanks
Sebastian.
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Brian
McCarthy -
180 Connect, Inc. - Executive Chairman
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I
think that covers our cue of questions and here and many thanks to all of
you
for getting together this morning and for many of you we'll talk to you on
Thursday.
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Peter
Giacalone -
180 Connect, Inc. - President and CEO
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Thank
you all.
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Balter -
Ad.Venture Partners - Chairman and CEO
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